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	atbd Offline \| 29-12-2015, 02:37 PM \| #1

Hi everybody,

I have finally decided to switch from OS X to another unix. I already know arch and play with it since a long time on my 'test computer' ; I love this distribution but it is a little bit unstable for everyday-use I think.

So I look for others unixes and some itch my interest:
- Slackware seem to be awesome but packages management is pretty old
- Frugalware is slack with pacman as I saw?
- Crux, the inspiration of arch and source-based distro. More stable?
- Free/OpenBSD, I never tested those out of a VM but my "new" computer is fully compatible (thinkpad X220). The only missing thing is Skype... These OSes are well known for their stability and intrigue me since a long time (and ZFS is a bonus, at least on FBSD (: ).

Have a nice day

	xero Offline \| 29-12-2015, 03:30 PM \| #2

based on your own comments i'd say go crux if you want linux and openbsd if you want bsd.

	Wildefyr Offline \| 29-12-2015, 04:55 PM \| #3

Crux is as stable as you want to make it. I run nearly all my own packages outside of what's included in opt and core repos.

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	atbd Offline \| 31-12-2015, 09:11 AM \| #4

Thanks for your replies. I think I will try OpenBSD, i'm curious. Why prefer OpenBSD to FreeBSD ?
If I want to go back to linux I will go crux.

Happy new year to all nixers (a little early ^^)

	arcetera Offline \| 31-12-2015, 11:02 AM \| #5

here's a rundown of openbsd vs freebsd:

openbsd: security-centered, uses stable packages, and has contributed to every operating system. literally every one.

freebsd: decently secure, but that is not the focus. has more drivers and hardware support than openbsd. uses zfs.

both: have an easy menu-driven installer, use a bsd userland, have both ports and binary packages

	atbd Offline \| 01-01-2016, 09:27 PM \| #6

Thank you for these precisions

	xero Offline \| 04-01-2016, 01:51 PM \| #7

(31-12-2015, 11:02 AM)arcetera Wrote: openbsd: security-centered, uses stable packages, and has contributed to every operating system. literally every one.

nice summation arc

	atbd Offline \| 07-01-2016, 06:45 PM \| #8

I installed OpenBSD on my laptop and i'm discovering it thanks to the handbook & Absolute OpenBSD book.
Everything seems to run well except one thing: I haven't UTF-8 support in zsh and it is specific to this shell. All others have it.

If somebody has an explanation, i'll take it

	Wildefyr Offline \| 07-01-2016, 07:15 PM \| #9

What's the output of:

Code:
locale

and

Code:
locale -a

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	xero Offline \| 08-01-2016, 01:50 PM \| #10

open zsh and type

Code:
LANG=

and press tab to suggest completion options for you.

when you find what you want (e.g en_US:UTF-8) add it to your .zshrc

Code:
echo "export LANG=en_US.UTF-8" >> ~/.zshrc

	apk Offline \| 08-01-2016, 02:17 PM \| #11

also idk what the stance is on $LC_ALL but

Code:
echo "export LC_ALL="en_US.UTF-8" >> ~/.profile

has made things prettier in some cases

	atbd Offline \| 08-01-2016, 04:29 PM \| #12

I have already test this solution with LANG and LC_CTYPE both set to "fr_FR.UTF-8".
But my terminal (urxvt) is still unable to handle utf-8 char :(

	xero Offline \| 08-01-2016, 05:24 PM \| #13

this looks promising:
https://www.b1c1l1.com/blog/2011/05/09/u...n-freebsd/

	atbd Offline \| 08-01-2016, 06:20 PM \| #14

Seemed promising but it didn't work, OpenBSD's login.conf do not support 'charset' and 'lang' entries.

I finally succeed.
We had the right response but not in the right place, we have to put it in ~/.xsession (if xdm else ~/.xinitrc).

Thanks for your help !

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