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Which IRC client do you use? - dcat - 11-10-2013

I've been thinking of a project lately, where every irc query between two users is encrypted using a public key.
The general idea is that this way, even someone intercepts the message, it'll be rendered useless.

This is superior to traditional key exchange, since it eliminates the problem of user genuinity at KeyX initalization.

The main problem would be, among unixhub's users, there isn't much uniform when it comes to IRC clients, so I made this poll to get a fair idea of which clients are in use.

(since this is unixhub, I've choosen to omit GUI irc clients)

edit: I realized some people use xchat

RE: Which IRC client do you use? - venam - 12-10-2013

By "irc query between two users" do you mean private chat?

RE: Which IRC client do you use? - dcat - 12-10-2013

Yes. --------------

RE: Which IRC client do you use? - z3bra - 12-10-2013

(mostly) irssi user here. A client is missing in the list: ii :)
I use it sometimes when I need to quicly connect to a single chan. I use ptii (core) as a frontend. the whole script is browsable here.

It might be easy to add encryption to this :)

RE: Which IRC client do you use? - nrmc.dubz - 12-10-2013

Yeah, I tryed ii a few months ago. Very nice, but unusable for normal irc-sesstions. Last time I'd used it, because I was too lazy to set up irssi. I left irssi for 2 months because theming it was a nightmare :D.

ii rocks.

RE: Which IRC client do you use? - z3bra - 13-10-2013

As a stand-alone, it's a pain in the neck, yeah:
Code:
echo 'Hi everybody !' > \#unixhub/in; tail \#unixhub/out
.

But within a good script with some small tools, it becomes really usable, check out this shot.
It's tmux with ii + tail -f + ptii.

And yeah. ii rocks.

RE: Which IRC client do you use? - zygotb - 13-10-2013

I use Xchat occasionally, same with irssi, but lately have gone back to weechat.

RE: Which IRC client do you use? - nrmc.dubz - 14-10-2013

z3bra Wrote:But within a good script with some small tools[…]

I used it with $SHELL functions. Looks like this:

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RE: Which IRC client do you use? - z3bra - 14-10-2013

Could you develop ? What do you call a $SHELL function ? Seems interesting :D

RE: Which IRC client do you use? - nrmc.dubz - 14-10-2013

Well, it isn't very nice.

Code:
function chan() {
export Serv "$1"
export CHAN "$2"
}

function join() {
echo "/j $CHAN > $HOME/irc/$Serv/in
}

function send() {
echo "$1" > $HOME/irc/$Serv/$CHAN/in
}

After this I use simply two terms. One term for send() and another one to run
Code:
while :; do; cat $HOME/irc/$Serv/$CHAN/out; sleep 1; done

Very dirty as you see :D
But that was the first way appeared in my fabulous mind :P.

RE: Which IRC client do you use? - z3bra - 14-10-2013

Oh okay, I though it was a kind of magic that can occur by tweaking the $SHELL ^^

I actually wrote a tool (ptti, see above) that get text from the user, and write it to a fifo named 'in' in the current directory. So I get an interactive prompt to write message (prepending everything with 'send' or 'echo' can be painfull...).

I also improved it to navigate between multiple fifo, but it's still quite buggy.

RE: Which IRC client do you use? - nrmc.dubz - 14-10-2013

Yeah I have downloaded it a few minutes ago, I like to get Software like this in C. But doing evrything with echo is faster created and not so bad, if it is in the $SHELLrc imo.

Of course, your ptii is quiet better.

RE: Which IRC client do you use? - wanda - 14-10-2013

can't rice xchat

RE: Which IRC client do you use? - nrmc.dubz - 15-10-2013

@z3bra

Tryed out ptii now. It. Is. Awesome.

RE: Which IRC client do you use? - z3bra - 15-10-2013

Glad you like it :D

Are you trying the dumb one ? Or the multi-chan ?

RE: Which IRC client do you use? - nrmc.dubz - 15-10-2013

Multi-Channel Mode, for sure :)

You wrote in the README, that you want to support multi-Server structure with ptii. That would be amazing.
I've tryed the gitorious version first and after that I used the AUR Package; why you don't let 'make' install it to /usr/bin ?

RE: Which IRC client do you use? - z3bra - 15-10-2013

I'm not sure how to implement this. Managing it like the channel would mean that you'd have to do somthing like /s <server> then /co <channel>. Which isn't that practical. I'll fix the whole stuff vefore thinking about that =)

For the installation, I don't really understand what you're poiting out. Isn't the makefile installing it to /usr/bin/ by default ?

RE: Which IRC client do you use? - nrmc.dubz - 15-10-2013

The gitorious-version can't exec `make install`.

RE: Which IRC client do you use? - z3bra - 15-10-2013

Code:
»  cd ptii                                                                  cosette:~/src/c  
LICENSE  Makefile  ptii.c  README

»  make                                                                cosette:~/src/c/ptii  
CC ptii.c
LD ptii.o -o ptii

»  sudo make install                                                   cosette:~/src/c/ptii  
>> z3bra:
install -D -m755 ptii /usr/bin/ptii
install -D -m644 README /usr/share/doc/README

»  which ptii                                                          cosette:~/src/c/ptii  
/usr/bin/ptii

Would you post your problem please ? I can't reproduce the bug myself :/

RE: Which IRC client do you use? - dimeshake - 15-10-2013

weechat - I was using quassel before, but it's braindead when it comes to efficiency. It stores the entire backlog of all chats in a sqlite database, and scans the whole damned table on client connections, even if you're interested in only the last 50 lines of backlog. It's also rather opaque when it comes to hacking, and includes no provisions for extending the app via plugins or scripts.

RE: Which IRC client do you use? - nrmc.dubz - 16-10-2013

@z3bra

I retryed, and at this time `make install` was running correctly. Strange.

I don't know what I did wrong last time. How I can make a mistake with `make`? :D

[edit]

Is there a smart way to read the fifo without
Code:
while :; do; cat $FIFO; sleep 1; done
?

RE: Which IRC client do you use? - z3bra - 16-10-2013

Code:
tail -f $FIFO

You can also check multitail, but it's not worth it IMO.

RE: Which IRC client do you use? - nrmc.dubz - 21-10-2013

I should facepalm myself :D

Thank you z3bra, now I have replaced irssi with {pt}ii

RE: Which IRC client do you use? - z3bra - 21-10-2013

Glad you like it ! My first known user ^^

RE: Which IRC client do you use? - ajac - 21-10-2013

ive also converted to ii from irsii. ill probably hack together some thing in c that lets me join servers and channels with more grace

RE: Which IRC client do you use? - z3bra - 20-11-2013

I I just rewrote ptii from scratch, implementing Inotify and readdir to build the channel tree. The code is more solid now (I think ^^).

It actually lack some features like handling multiple servers or switching to a channel by its name or number. But as I'm starting from a better basis, it will be easier to hack and improve. Feel free to join!

Repo is accessible here:
> ptii repository

RE: Which IRC client do you use? - shtols - 20-11-2013

Mostly XChat / Hexchat, irssi at work.

RE: Which IRC client do you use? - zygotb - 30-11-2013

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Xchat riced.