(09-08-2017, 07:08 AM)1Byte Wrote: Most of the conversations had seem to be given by people that already have a very deep understanding of the language, AND cynicism about teaching the less fortunate.

I personally think this is a shame.
I'm a proponent of the "everything is teachable to anyone as long as you move forward into the subject in the right manner".

However, sometimes it's at the cost of dilluting some of the specificities and sometimes making it less precise.
But I think it's good even at this cost, the honing and little details can come later, once the person has got a general understanding of what's happening.