venam
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Distro Hopping


Link of the recording [ https://raw.githubusercontent.com/nixers...-04-16.mp3 ]



There are many Unix distributions available and it's fun to switch from one to another. What are the must knows when going back and forth between them, what are the frustrations, what tips would you give.

Show notes.
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Intro music by sshbio - https://p.iotek.org/c56
Netbios - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NetBIOS
Suicide linux - https://qntm.org/suicide
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kern...focus=1558
bcw driver violating GPL on openbsd mailing list - http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/bsd-gpl-st....html/feed
different pkg names with - `pkg_info -Q`
Nixers thread about switching from machine to machine - https://nixers.net/showthread.php?tid=1705
sshbio's dots - https://github.com/sshbio/dot/blob/master/bin/src
usb-creator - http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
https://arcetera.moe/git/pg/log.html
https://arcetera.moe/git/disputils/log.html
fyr's mpvc - https://github.com/wildefyr/mpvc
select-editor - http://man.he.net/man1/select-editor
arc default quest - http://pub.iotek.org/p/ncgt2LL.png
jkl
Those are Linux distributions, not Unix.
venam
(23-05-2016, 04:48 AM)jkl Wrote: Those are Linux distributions, not Unix.

Did you listen to the podcast, which one are you talking about?
jkl
I mean, there's no such thing as "Unix distributions". "Linux distributions" ("distros") share the same kernel and a roughly similar userland. "Unix distributions" are entirely independent systems, no Unix is a distribution anymore. (1BSD was a distribution though, but things have changed since the development of the original Unix had stopped.)

I'm just a bit picky at times, sorry.
venam
(23-05-2016, 06:40 AM)jkl Wrote: I mean, there's no such thing as "Unix distributions". "Linux distributions" ("distros") share the same kernel and a roughly similar userland. "Unix distributions" are entirely independent systems, no Unix is a distribution anymore. (1BSD was a distribution though, but things have changed since the development of the original Unix had stopped.)

I'm just a bit picky at times, sorry.
It's the same as "Unix flavors" which you might prefer.
neeasade
(23-05-2016, 06:40 AM)jkl Wrote: I'm just a bit picky at times, sorry.

As many technically inclined people are, all good.
venam
In the last week review I mentioned:

https://github.com/nixers-projects/ricerous for keeping track of what was installed.

List of supported hardware per OS:
You can list them on Linux using `menuconfig` when you choose what kind of support you want in your Linux kernel.
Also, there is support for the nvidia driver on openbsd, unlike what was said during the podcast.

You can find the list of supported driver for many distros, just search.
z3bra
I don't distrohop much. But everytime I get to install a new machine, I consider all the existing distros (even those I ditched previously) in their current version and see which one would fit the best, and/or would be the funniest to use. This led me to use. I tend to go from simple to simpler everytime:

workstation:
ubuntu -> archlinux -> crux

notebook: (this is my testing machine!)
in no particular order:
archlinux -> not funny enough
void linux -> didn't like package building system
alpine linux -> musl limits usage too much (for UI use)
crux -> already installed elsewhere
openbsd -> couldn't boot
elementary -> too heavy
??? -> our very own distro!

server:
archlinux -> alpine -> openbsd
jkl
OpenBSD is simpler than what? :D
z3bra
(27-05-2016, 09:30 AM)jkl Wrote: OpenBSD is simpler than what? :D
Than many Linux based systems. I use the term simpler for either "saner defaults", "less abstraction levels" and "easier to use". OpenBSD has both saner defaults and easiness of use than many Linux based systems.
When you get used to the configuration file format, and overall service management system, you can pretty much "guess" how tools you've never used will be used. I recently setup my first openbsd server with a bunch of services on it (http, git, bgp, gopher, nfs, and different VPN flavors) and it was really pleasant.




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