(29-11-2018, 10:06 AM)jkl Wrote:

(29-11-2018, 09:56 AM)z3bra Wrote: Unix and Linux both respect and extend the POSIX standards

Linux (and especially GNU) is mostly ignoring POSIX, see the sed syntax for example - and a couple of missing commands. The "Linux Standard Base" was made to replace POSIX - and most distributions even ignore that. Meh.

I think that GNU tools are POSIX-compliant, even though they heavily extend them and are now used as the reference for what's "standard" (unfortunately). And it seems that LSB uses POSIX as a base for what it defines as standard. I wish more tools on linux would respect POSIX though...
Busybox shits on POSIX, for example.

(29-11-2018, 10:06 AM)jkl Wrote:

(29-11-2018, 09:56 AM)z3bra Wrote: I don't think the original Unix should still be considered to be the standard for computing.

But that's what most people on nixers do as well, happily creating a "week in the TTY" on whatever "Unix-like" system, being stuck in the past with "terminals" which deliberately imitate 1978's VT100 hardware. They won't move on.

The creators of Unix have made a better standard with Plan 9 once graphical terminals were reliable enough. Now how much of Plan 9 do you use?

Well, the week in the TTY is mostly a fun challenge, pretty much like people that are into cars go to a rally with their car for 1920. They don't expect to win. They hope to finish the race :P

I back you up on plan 9, and to your surprise I probably use it more than you'd expect, and I'd actually love to discuss that with you ;)

(29-11-2018, 10:06 AM)jkl Wrote:

(29-11-2018, 09:56 AM)z3bra Wrote: They both run vi after all :P

They also run Emacs. And ed. And TECO. Now what is "the standard"? :P

From the POSIX standards tools definitions the standards are ed, ex and vi ;)