What is your favorite programming language to program on *nix? - Programming On Unix

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gmk
Long time nixers
I used to be a big python guy. Recently I've started to use (and like!) golang a lot more, I think this is because sometimes python is just too slow. Rust also looks interesting.
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wolf
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C, I guess.
But I'm still very stupid. God have mercy of me.
venam
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Oh, the age old question of what's your favorite programming language.

With the years it has come to whatever does the trick the quickest and without too much hassle.
Sometimes it's a simple shell script, sometimes it's Perl, sometimes it's Python, sometimes it's C, sometimes it's C++, sometimes it's Java. I alternate between them depending on the scenario.
I have favorites but they are for specific tasks and not for generic *nix programming.
Now if you asked me what syntax or ideologies of programming I liked better and which language would fit that then I would also say that it depends on what I'm trying to do.

TLDR: Whatever works works.
jkl
Long time nixers
Python is for people who hate programming. Python developers aren't real developers with their mandatory whitespace syntax and their requirements.txt boilerplate. YMMV. ;-)

I, personally, usually prefer C and/or Lisp, but it surely depends on the task to solve. Generally I agree with venam here: Whatever works works. I just happen to prefer efficient compilers.
z3bra
Grey Hair Nixers
C is always a good choice, as this is the only one deeply integrated into the OS (/lib, /include, ld.so, ...).
evbo
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This question is highly subjective, but I guess that's the point

My basic rule for picking languages is as follows:

Scripting: Perl if I can, Python if I must.
Programs: Go for concurrency or web. C if I can, C++ if I must.
Day job: C# all day, every day. Hooray state government. (C# is actually pretty great, my complaint lies in that any alternative stack is not allowed even when it would make sense for the problem we're trying to solve.. but I just do what the boss man says)
jkl
Long time nixers
(01-04-2019, 12:36 PM)evbo Wrote: Go for concurrency or web. C if I can

What is missing for you to use C for concurrency or web?
evbo
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Part of it is that I prefer the flow of goroutines and channels, part of it is that concurrency in C is difficult while concurrency in Go is so easy even a moron like me can do it. Take your pick on what's more important

Same goes for web; Go's http library is dead simple, libcurl has a ton of boilerplate that I always have to lookup how to do. Admittedly, I haven't written any C + libcurl in years so I'm not sure if things have changed. I also have never learned how to use something like BCHS.

Now all that being said, I needed a simple customized TCP server to handle data being sent to a server and C + POSIX sockets was quick and easy. Thanks Beej!
prx*
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1. shell for most things, using sed/awk/cut is most of the time enough
2. go for web or mail parsing
3. C for everything else.

I used to do a lot of python, but its sooo big and have a hube standard library (to much). So I rewrite code in C now and regret to do this so late.
z3bra
Grey Hair Nixers
I can see more and more "real life" programs in go, and I can't help but think "how can people accept such a weird runtime configuration" like the $GOPATH thing et al.
How do you deal with it in production ?
evbo
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My previous comment mentioned my current job is at a .NET shop, but we do have a couple small internal services written in Go. For those, we use Go's mod feature so that you don't need a $GOPATH, which thankfully Pike and co have decided to move away from.

`go build` produces a single executable containing the runtime, libraries, and application code (as long as the libraries are pure go, the C FFI is a whole different animal). The executable is then ran as a service on a server, no need to install any runtime server-side.

As an aside, I always had a strong dislike for the whole $GOPATH thing, and I'm glad that go's maintainers have come up with a system to replace it.
z3bra
Grey Hair Nixers
This sound interresting indeed, would you have any link to this "mod feature" ?
evbo
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https://blog.golang.org/modules2019 is a pretty good overview
stilbruch
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I try to use C as much as I can, but usually I'm just trying to hack something together and the extra effort isn't worth it. Back in my Minecraft plugin development days I used to use Java (oh god), Kotlin and Scala. Scala was a very nice language, I was very much in love with functional programming, but it was much too slow to compile.