Hello fellow Nixers,
This thread is for discussing the Nixers curated newsletter.

We jump on irc and many of us share topics and ideas; things we just discovered and find interesting. We all work on different kinds of projects and hold different opinions on a multitude of things.

Almost every community or institution possesses their own curated newsletter.

This is a reflection of the group as a whole, our mini-expanding-filter-bubble-of-thoughts.

We share what we know around the topic of Unix and Unix-tech related as a whole.

* Interesting blog posts
* Projects done by community members
* Events
* Thoughts
* Jokes and Comics - update header of nixers
* Any kind of art related to Unix
* Reading recommendations
* etc..

This will unfold as follow:
Every week people can send the content to me by email, irc, forums PM and at the end of the week 10 of those are chosen to be featured in the newsletter.

The person curating the newsletter will rotate as soon as we get enough persons contributing.

The newsletters will be sent on weekends.

The source can be found here: https://github.com/nixers-projects/newsletter
You can sign up here: https://nixers.net/newsletter/
The feed for earlier newsletter (Going to post them one week after the newsletter get sent): https://nixers.net/newsletter/feed.xml

Cheers,

(04-12-2016, 09:01 AM)venam Wrote: what do you think?

Sounds like, at the very least, a great way to crowdsource knowledge

(04-12-2016, 09:01 AM)venam Wrote: Things to add?

I could help on the newbie section!

(04-12-2016, 09:01 AM)venam Wrote: Would you participate?

In whatever(likely limited) capacity I could, sure

(04-12-2016, 09:01 AM)venam Wrote: What platform will we use?

I don't have any strong preference one way or the other. Let's get a MySpace page!

(04-12-2016, 09:01 AM)venam Wrote: How will the process unfold?

I'd assume something like the podcast; in that there's a discussion thread around a set of ideas/topic, which get fleshed out in the newsletter articles.

https://nixers.net/showthread.php?tid=1860

(04-12-2016, 02:49 PM)rocx Wrote: https://nixers.net/showthread.php?tid=1860

The magazine didn't take off because it takes many persons' effort.
A newsletter is just an aggregation of links, which is easier to do and doesn't require hours of work every week.

Well, z3bra and, to a lesser extent, myself are working on ratox, a distributed, encrypted messaging application
using the tox protocol.

The development is going on at http://git.z3bra.org/ratox/log.html. ratox uses the tox protocol (https://tox.chat) and the toxcore library (https://github.com/irungentoo/toxcore). Atm, one-to-one messaging, file sending and audio calling are possible, all encrypted via libsodium (https://nacl.cr.yp.to). So, if you want to test it, install toxcore, download ratox,
compile, read the manpage, and send a request to the id AA72C255E14A6214E0E368F5882A6B7CF235F8F3CCE0321EDBFBC5F2C065E3173337CFD9B594 (sorry z3bra, it changed again for some reason).

(05-12-2016, 07:31 AM)pranomostro Wrote: Well, z3bra and, to a lesser extent, myself are working on ratox, a distributed, encrypted messaging application
using the tox protocol.

Wrong thread?

(04-12-2016, 09:01 AM)venam Wrote: Maybe also link to blog posts from community members or other projects we are working on.

I thought this would qualify, but I can move it to the 'what are you working on' thread.

(06-12-2016, 06:36 AM)pranomostro Wrote: I thought this would qualify, but I can move it to the 'what are you working on' thread.

This thread is about the proposition of the newsletter, I was asking for opinions on this.
Yes, this would qualify as a project we could link to.

I'm thinking of using emails as a mean.
The workflow isn't very clear in my mind yet.
For the moment I'm just thinking of having people email me, or PM on the forums or irc with links they found interesting.
Then We'd have to setup a subscribe/unsubscribe page and a script to send the mail to everyone in the list.

We may also need to review the links to X number before sending them.

I'm unsure if we'll go with a pre-made solution or not.
What are your thoughts?

(04-12-2016, 09:01 AM)venam Wrote: what do you think?

sounds cool

(04-12-2016, 09:01 AM)venam Wrote: Things to add?

* current projects
* "new" tools
* community evens
* cool ascii art
* what are you reading (new books, blog posts, etc)

(04-12-2016, 09:01 AM)venam Wrote: Would you participate?

yes, at least some of the time

(04-12-2016, 09:01 AM)venam Wrote: What platform will we use?

mailing list?

(04-12-2016, 09:01 AM)venam Wrote: How will the process unfold?

we pick an organizer, we all send that person stuff for the mailing list. they organize and disseminate. probably {w,sh}ould rotate the organizer ever few releases.

Perhaps a central source on unix material (links/books/etc)?

The problem lies in the quantity of responses regarding which source from all over the web. So a local place that nixers typically agree on being a good source of information for those wanting to learn more at the expense of not asking the same questions that im sure most on here or on other sites get tired of answering.

(06-12-2016, 03:37 PM)xero Wrote: * current projects
* "new" tools
* community evens
* cool ascii art
* what are you reading (new books, blog posts, etc)

Noted.

(06-12-2016, 03:37 PM)xero Wrote: we pick an organizer, we all send that person stuff for the mailing list. they organize and disseminate. probably {w,sh}ould rotate the organizer ever few releases.

I was thinking of a similar scenario.

(06-12-2016, 03:37 PM)xero Wrote:

Quote:What platform will we use?

mailing list?

I'll look into how to setup a mailing list.
If someone wants to offer help and host the service it would be great.
It's always better to have things decentralized.

Here we go, I built the page.

The source can be found here: https://github.com/nixers-projects/newsletter
You can sign up here: https://nixers.net/newsletter/

Please refer to the first post for more info in how to contribute.

What about "distributing" the newsletter in RSS format?

(11-12-2016, 09:14 PM)strang3quark Wrote: What about "distributing" the newsletter in RSS format?

+1 to the RSS feed idea. The specs are pretty simple minus the fact it's XML-based.

(11-12-2016, 10:20 PM)rocx Wrote:

(11-12-2016, 09:14 PM)strang3quark Wrote: What about "distributing" the newsletter in RSS format?

+1 to the RSS feed idea. The specs are pretty simple minus the fact it's XML-based.

Sounds good, but updating the feed real-time or every time an email with the curated articles is sent?

(11-12-2016, 10:48 PM)albertocg Wrote:

(11-12-2016, 10:20 PM)rocx Wrote:

(11-12-2016, 09:14 PM)strang3quark Wrote: What about "distributing" the newsletter in RSS format?

+1 to the RSS feed idea. The specs are pretty simple minus the fact it's XML-based.

Sounds good, but updating the feed real-time or every time an email with the curated articles is sent?

Whenever an e-mail is sent. An RSS feed is another way to "subscribe" to it. All things considered, it sounds like an easier way to do this instead of mailing list. Just use a feed reader (CLI clients, on-line clients, and Emacs clients are available). Issuing another post is as easy as updating the feed XML and a subscriber getting is as easy as them checking up on it in their client.

As for the gory details, a feed reader can cache the current contents of a feed for however many minutes long the <ttl> element says so. Once that time's elapsed, the reader will check for any new updates to the source.

(11-12-2016, 09:14 PM)strang3quark Wrote: What about "distributing" the newsletter in RSS format?

(11-12-2016, 10:48 PM)albertocg Wrote: Sounds good, but updating the feed real-time or every time an email with the curated articles is sent?

If you're up to the task and really prefer an RSS feed, you can do a pull request to the github repo ( https://github.com/nixers-projects/newsletter ), more specifically this script can be updated.

Personally, I prefer emails, they go well with the idea of ephemeral newsletter, and everyone is already doing it this way.
Maybe it's because I've never gotten used to reading anything in RSS feeds and only used it for push notifications.

(12-12-2016, 01:05 AM)venam Wrote: If you're up to the task and really prefer an RSS feed, you can do a pull request to the github repo ( https://github.com/nixers-projects/newsletter ), more specifically this script can be updated.

I don't have much free time but I will try to contribute.
I have some code I written a while ago ( https://github.com/strang3quark/strang3q...nd/rss.php ), I'm using OOP there but I can adapt it to fit the newsletter code if you agree to it.


Edit:
I am taking a look at the code, where do you plan to store the newsletters?
I'm thinking of making a php script to get all those files and output a XML file (the feed).

I've implemented the RSS support, it isn't the prettiest code I ever made but I think it does the job.
You can check the changes here: https://github.com/nixers-projects/newsl...3quark_rss

I've sent the pull request.

(12-12-2016, 05:08 PM)strang3quark Wrote: [url=https://github.com/nixers-projects/newsletter/compare/master...strang3quark:strang3quark_rss][/url]
I've sent the pull request.

I reviewed it. It's great, just needs a little adjustments.

If you have something to share for the newsletter please send me a PM, or message me on IRC, or hit me up with an email.
The newsletter will be sent every Sunday.

For those of you who signed up to the newsletter:

First of, sorry for sending the email twice.
Seond, sorry about the RSS feed, there are things that need to be fixed (the newsletter is in plain text and rss doesn't like it)

Other than that, I'd like to have your opinions on it?
What do you like?

Also, please feel free to share any interesting links you have, I'll feature them in the next release.

Cheers!

The newsletter is a really cool idea.

I think the way it is currently done is perfect, nothing left to remove.
I will try to participate as much as possible so that this can become a long-time project.

--I'm not getting the newsletter through RSS feed.--

NOTE: Sorry, the feed is fine, I noticed it's a "bug" in my software.

I store all feeds in a database and the URL column has "unique" attribute, since all newsletter articles have the same url they are overwritten.

(07-01-2017, 10:42 AM)strang3quark Wrote: NOTE: Sorry, the feed is fine, I noticed it's a "bug" in my software.

I think, if I'm not mistaking, they also appear in reverse order.

very. cool.

hope to get my crux system up soon and working on stuff.

(04-12-2016, 09:01 AM)venam Wrote: what do you think?

Sounds like a great step for the community. Seems like a nice way of nixers coming together as a whole.

(04-12-2016, 09:01 AM)venam Wrote: Things to add?

Cool discoveries (programs, scripts, things we want to have more attention paid to).
Guides for beginners and advances users (ricing, programming).
ASCII/ANSI Art as a title maybe.

(04-12-2016, 09:01 AM)venam Wrote: Would you participate?

I would love to, so long as I have a basis on what I should be adding.

(04-12-2016, 09:01 AM)venam Wrote: What platform will we use?

Any platform possible really. For maximum readers etc.

(04-12-2016, 09:01 AM)venam Wrote: How will the process unfold?

You have made a great start with the podcasts. I think we should have a time to discuss things to add together, possible on IRC.

(17-01-2017, 02:52 PM)nxll Wrote: Any platform possible really. For maximum readers etc.

I think you should recheck the first post, we've started the newsletter 4 weeks ago.
https://nixers.net/newsletter/

There's a feed too for older mails:
https://nixers.net/newsletter/feed.xml

(17-01-2017, 02:52 PM)nxll Wrote: I would love to, so long as I have a basis on what I should be adding.

You can hit me up (forums pm, email, irc pm) with any interesting link you got.

I might be a moron... but I've tried a few different rss readers now. And I cannot get that link to display correctly. Currently using termfeed, and it at least displays something. But everything is jammed together on one line, \n doesn't work, or seemingly any other formatting.

(28-01-2017, 02:16 AM)Adrift Wrote: I might be a moron... but I've tried a few different rss readers now. And I cannot get that link to display correctly. Currently using termfeed, and it at least displays something. But everything is jammed together on one line, \n doesn't work, or seemingly any other formatting.

Maybe the rss creation needs to be approached in a different way.
I have no clue about RSS so feel free to do a pull request: https://github.com/nixers-projects/newsletter

Bump:
Reminder that for the moment I'm filtering the links people send (at least the 2 or 3 I received the last few weeks) but that it's not limited to me, we can take turns for whoever takes care of the newsletter for the week.

So keep me updated if some week you feel like putting together the newsletter.